Monday, October 24, 2005

1984

sikhgenocide.org

solarider.org/blog

neverforget84.com

bbc.co.uk

1984 - sequence of events

sikhsundesh.net

Photo courtesy of the BBC

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

my following statement is more a question than a statement but doesn't it seem like the sikhs in uk, canada and in the us remember these atrocities, tragedies, hollocoust(spelling) more than the ones living in punjab? why is that? (and i forbid anyone and everyone to blame the "leadership"!!! cuz you know elects the leaders?)

-isingh

Anonymous said...

HELLO CHACH!! itz your favourite nephew! wel wel wel you've been very busy, n i must say uve taken some good photos!! hope everyones good, keep it up! Sibz (",)

Sikhi Seeker said...

I'm with you isingh ji! I was in Punjab for 18 long years - I don't know if i should be aplogizing for never knowing much to anything about the 1984 massacre! I don't have the answers. But if a child doesnt know about the past, and grows up almost oblivious to it, whose fault is it - and don't say my parents!!! (even if you are tempted, don't say it!)

Parents are people of the society which they lived in, we call it Punjab. There must be something in the air, which has deleted that part of history from it. Maybe I'm calling the government, air.

Milan Kundera's words keep resonating in my ears and life, harder and harder than ever:

The first step in liquidating a people is to erase its memory. Destroy its books, its culture, its history. Then have somebody write new books, manufacture a new culture, invent a new history. Before long the nation will begin to forget what it is and what it was. The world around it will forget even faster. A nation cannot cross a desert of organized forgetting."

Sikhi Seeker said...

Now the most important question for me is something other than yours isingh ji:

What are we gaining by remembering it?

I agree that history should be remembered - so that in future you are not crushed on for similar reasons - to avoid a future that looks like history!

But what else? Cuz i know there is at least something - something that I don't understand. Kindly help me through this...I really need a light here.
Thanks in advance!

Anonymous said...

we should remember these events to remind ourselves what we were fighting for. why so many willingly gave up their lives?

i think what's happening in punjab is what happened to the jewish people after the hollaucast (spelling)...it was soooooooo bad and painful that people just want to forget about it.

of course all these are my assumptions...i'll find out for real when (you know what)...

-isingh

msingh said...

In any civilised society one would expect the state to ensure that those who commit crimes are caught and punished. Looking at what happened in 1984, the evidence speaks for itself - India’s record of human right violations is appalling. Those responsible for heinous crimes against Sikhs have not been caught and punished, so how can we forget? 21 years is not a long time, the struggle for justice, to bring the perpetrators to books has to go on.

isingh I think Sikhs in Punjab remember the 1984 atrocities just as much, if not more than those in countries like Canada and UK. Perhaps the difference is that Sikhs outside India will do more in the way of raising awareness, organising seminars, etc. not because they remember more, but because they are in a position to do so without the fear of harrasement from the police.

sikhiseeker, what will be gain by remembering it? As you’ve already said, remembering will serve to ensure we don’t let something like this happen again (or at least be more prepare). This in itself is a very powerful reason. But it’s more than remembering, it’s about the struggle for justice, about catching and punishing those responsible. How can we not remember it, while the perpetrators still walk the streets?

ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ

msingh said...

Hello sibz, hope you're working hard!

ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ

ਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਤਾਪ ਸਿੰਘ said...

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