tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post112683075079060574..comments2023-09-22T09:22:45.912+00:00Comments on msingh shackled: Bhagat Puran Singh Jimsinghhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05543889475679521829noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-24080036411633798242008-02-24T13:26:00.000+00:002008-02-24T13:26:00.000+00:00Thank you for visiting Harminder Singh ji, have to...Thank you for visiting Harminder Singh ji, have to say youe site is excellent. Will add your site on the blogroll here.<BR/><BR/>Wahegurumsinghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543889475679521829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-72770028849805518132008-02-23T20:57:00.000+00:002008-02-23T20:57:00.000+00:00Check out Bhagat Ji's rare pics and biography(whic...Check out Bhagat Ji's rare pics and biography(which I am still putting in) at simransewa.blogspot.comInspiring Tweethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14431708932393697109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1127122047564797842005-09-19T09:27:00.000+00:002005-09-19T09:27:00.000+00:00I know what you are saying sikhi seeker, it's ofte...I know what you are saying sikhi seeker, it's often easier to 'go with the flow' and put down people of other faiths, but that's not sikhi. Unfortunately there will always be people in all religions/cultures who think this way, especially when emotions are involved such as the '84 riots. I have to admit that this tendency surfaces within me from time to time, I suppose I am a long way to go from the 'man niva, mat uchi' avastha. Bhagat Puran singh ji is a pretty good 'definition' of a model sikh - he wasn't interested in ammasing wealth and fame, had great humility, was involved in tru sewa, saw all as god's creation,....<BR/><BR/>But also let's be clear that if sikhs in India are being discriminated against, then we cannot give up our resolve to get justice, using methods condoned by our Guru. There's no justification for example of killing innocent people and children (like what is happening in Irag)or painting an entire people with the same brush. Of course if we are cornered, and in danger of our survival, then of course it is right to raise the sword.<BR/><BR/>Re 'it's your blog' - not the 'comments' part of it, infact the less input I make the better, I'm only too grateful for those who take the time to comments or respond to questions. Thanks!<BR/><BR/>Wahegurumsinghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543889475679521829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1127108578716580872005-09-19T05:42:00.000+00:002005-09-19T05:42:00.000+00:00Yjankyou, and thankyou again.......will post a com...Yjankyou, and thankyou again.......<BR/><BR/>will post a comment later<BR/><BR/>from anon<BR/>gurfatehAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1127091071694761672005-09-19T00:51:00.000+00:002005-09-19T00:51:00.000+00:00Yes, he is indeed a spectacular example of a wonde...Yes, he is indeed a spectacular example of a wonderous Sikh. When i say that I see him separate from religion is because although i adore to him like God, I don't pray to him for stuff (makes sense? This was mainly for the clarity of Anonymous). <BR/>Also there is this substantial difference, which some find offensive: His main religion was humanity. He loved Waheguru truly and took only the positive from Him and Sikhi. But unlike the innumerable other Sikhs, he does not see the difference between the people of other religions. He saw them all as the offsprings of one Guru. And that he did not throw the Hindu inmates of his derai, after the atrocities of '84. He was a true Sikh to me. But recently on one of the posts @ Prabhu ji's blog I learned that being a Sikh for others (not Prabhu)and still viewing people as separate Sikhs, Hindus, Muslims is so firm. And not just that, treating them different too (and sadly enough, mainly with hatred). I have begun to understand, how difficult it is to ever achieve the *prototype* definition of A True Sikh...<BR/>p.s.// It's your blog, and I hope I didn't come out too abrupt for your thoughts :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1127085595712290702005-09-18T23:19:00.000+00:002005-09-18T23:19:00.000+00:00Anon what are you confused about, please share. W...Anon what are you confused about, please share. Would be interesting to know a little bit about your joining the faith.<BR/><BR/>Hopefully sikhi seeker has cleared up any confusion you might have had. Sikhs only believe in guru granth sahib, and not in the pooja of any other.<BR/><BR/>However the sangat (company) of gursikhs is important on the road to sikhi, as this gives support and inspiration to us. This sangat includes reading the lives of great gursikhs such as bhagat Puran singh as well as going to the gurudwara, etc. In contrast we should avoid sangat of manmukhs, as this will only lead us away from sikhi.<BR/><BR/>Thanks sikhi seeker, interesting that you don't see bhagat ji as part of your religion, surely he's the embodiment of the concept of sewa (serving the needy) within sikhi?<BR/><BR/>Wahegurumsinghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543889475679521829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1127082293357311702005-09-18T22:24:00.000+00:002005-09-18T22:24:00.000+00:00Oh, I just realized that I didn't mention one of t...Oh, I just realized that I didn't mention one of the important questions or yours: why we pooja them? <BR/>We don't anonymous! <BR/>Sri Guru Granth Sahib included the banis from 11 (methinks) Bhagats, to respect their word for it brings us closer to Akal Purakh, God. But we are never asked to, and no one actually does pooja of them.<BR/>I respect and love Bhagat Puran Singh to such extent that I dunno where to define the line clearly between reverence and adoration. But it is different for me, he is my hero and my favourite man, which makes it personal and not part of religion.<BR/><BR/>Waheguru ji ja Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1127080930429612932005-09-18T22:02:00.000+00:002005-09-18T22:02:00.000+00:00Anonymous (since you don't have a name)...I'll try...Anonymous (since you don't have a name)...I'll try to answer it according to my perspective...<BR/><BR/>1) Bhagat refers to a Holy Person who leads humanity towards God.<BR/>2) A Bhagat does not usually preach to attract supporters but preach to highlight injustices in practises of the world.<BR/>(These are the 2 main things that I picked off wikipedia)<BR/><BR/>WE respect them. WE hold them in awe and inspiration. Believing in them? We believe in their good deeds. And why we believe them is because we have witnessed their goodness, humility and kindness. We talk of them, and remember them with gratitude and somehow try to learn something off their magnificent lives...<BR/><BR/>I really hope it makes sense to you as it does to me:)<BR/>and...<BR/>~Welcome to Sikhism~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1127038205703109962005-09-18T10:10:00.000+00:002005-09-18T10:10:00.000+00:00does guru granth sahib say to believe in them? who...does guru granth sahib say to believe in them? who are they?<BR/><BR/>i am a confused young sikh who has just joined your faith now?<BR/><BR/>i am still practising ?<BR/><BR/>sorry can you answer me?<BR/><BR/>where does it say in the gurbani that we should believe and pooja for the bhagats?<BR/><BR/>okay theu did something butaint it a source of sewa??????<BR/><BR/>gurfatehAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1127038057561670292005-09-18T10:07:00.000+00:002005-09-18T10:07:00.000+00:00why do we believe in bhagats?why do we believe in bhagats?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1126832715580087522005-09-16T01:05:00.000+00:002005-09-16T01:05:00.000+00:00sikhi seeker the more we mention Bhagat ji, the be...sikhi seeker the more we mention Bhagat ji, the better, that's how I see it. If you go to the second link mentioned at the bottom of this post and scroll down you'll see some really good pichures of the great man.<BR/><BR/>I look forward to your more comprehensive post on Bhagat ji!<BR/><BR/>Wahegurumsinghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543889475679521829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15932725.post-1126831844107906052005-09-16T00:50:00.000+00:002005-09-16T00:50:00.000+00:00Heyyy...I was working on that post :D Well, I am t...Heyyy...I was working on that post :D Well, I am trying to collect whatever pictures of him possibly available and save it in my blog. Once I get my courses sorted out for this term, I'm gonna gladly make my very due additons to my blog.<BR/>But Bhagatji's acknowledgement just makes me so very happy :D:D Thanks for sharing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com